Nidá / 30. nap

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Ha 30. napon lenne kviut, akkor dilemmához jutunk, mert ez sosem lehet háromszor.

Áh"S hoz erről véleményt.

ערוך השולחן, יורה דעה קפ״ט:י״ב

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Alapja a 6. pont:

שולחן ערוך, יורה דעה קפ״ט:ו׳

De même qu’on considère comme époques régulières celles qui, trois mois de suite, tombent à la même date, on regarde comme régulières également celles qui tombent, trois fois de suite, le même jour de la semaine, à des intervalles de quatre semaines.

Aminek a köv. Gemárá az alapja: Rés Lákis-Rabbi Jochánán-vita.

Nidá vagy Zivá napokban lehet-e kviut? Egy érdekes megfogalmazása annak, hogy átfedő napok mikor engedhetőek el.

נדה ל״ט ב:ז׳

Rav Pappa said to Rav Huna, son of Rav Yehoshua: But if so, a question arises with regard to that which Reish Lakish said: A woman fixes a menstrual cycle for herself during the days of her ziva, but a woman does not fix a menstrual cycle for herself during the days of her menstruation, i.e., when she is already a menstruating woman. And Rabbi Yoḥanan says: A woman fixes a menstrual cycle for herself during the days of her menstruation. One could ask: What are the circumstances of this dispute? Rabbi Yoḥanan cannot be referring to a case where all her sightings occurred while she was a menstruating woman, as everyone agrees that a woman’s menstrual cycle is not fixed in such a situation (see 11a).

Rav Papa sitája: 1-5-1-5-5 esetben Rabbi Jochánán rögzíti 5. napra (vagyis az 1.-et hajlamos akár kétszer, az elején is megengedhető ingadozásnak felfogni), Rés Lákis nem.

נדה ל״ט ב:ח׳

Rather, is it not referring to a case where she saw blood on the first of the month; and then again on the fifth of that same month, when she was a menstruating woman; and subsequently she saw blood on the first of the next month and then again on the fifth of that month; and now in the third month she saw blood on the fifth of the month but on the first of the month she did not see blood? In such a situation, the woman experienced an emission of blood on the fifth of the month for three consecutive months.

Ráv Huna sitája: nem kétszer az elején, hanem egyszer a végén engedhető meg ugyanez. Vagyis: 1-1-25-1.

נדה ל״ט ב:י׳

Rav Huna, son of Rav Yehoshua, said to Rav Pappa: These are not the circumstances of the dispute. Rather, this is what Rabbi Yoḥanan said: The dispute is referring to a case where she saw blood on the first of the month; and then again on the first of the next month, and then again on the twenty-fifth day of that month; and again on the first of the next month, which occurs during her days of menstruation. Rabbi Yoḥanan maintains that although she is in her days of menstruation, this sighting on the first of the third month serves to fix her menstrual cycle, as we say with regard to the sighting on the twenty-fifth day of the previous month that it is extra blood that gathered inside her. Therefore, it does not negate her regular cycle.

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