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Mezonos โ€“ with other foods

If one eats mezonos together with other foods, when would one have an obligation to say Bircas HaMazon?

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Shulchan Arukh, Orach Chayim 168:6ืฉื•ืœื—ืŸ ืขืจื•ืš, ืื•ืจื— ื—ื™ื™ื ืงืกืดื—:ื•ืณ
ืคืช ื”ื‘ืื” ื‘ื›ื™ืกื ื™ืŸ ืžื‘ืจืš ืขืœื™ื• ื‘ื•ืจื ืžื™ื ื™ ืžื–ื•ื ื•ืช ื•ืœืื—ืจื™ื• ื‘ืจื›ื” ืžืขื™ืŸ ืฉืœืฉ ื•ืื ืื›ืœ ืžืžื ื• ืฉื™ืขื•ืจ ืฉืื—ืจื™ื ืจื’ื™ืœื™ื ืœืงื‘ื•ืข ืขืœื™ื• ืืข"ืค ืฉื”ื•ื ืœื ืฉื‘ืข ืžืžื ื• ืžื‘ืจืš ืขืœื™ื• ื”ืžื•ืฆื™ื ื•ื‘ืจื›ืช ื”ืžื–ื•ืŸ ื•ืื ืžืชื—ืœื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ื“ืขืชื• ืœืื›ื•ืœ ืžืžื ื• ืžืขื˜ ื•ื‘ืจืš ื‘ื•ืจื ืžื™ื ื™ ืžื–ื•ื ื•ืช ื•ืื—ืจ ื›ืš ืื›ืœ ืฉื™ืขื•ืจ ืฉืื—ืจื™' ืงื•ื‘ืขื™' ืขืœื™ื• ื™ื‘ืจืš ืขืœื™ื• ื‘ืจื›ืช ื”ืžื–ื•ืŸ ืืข"ืค ืฉืœื ื‘ืจืš ื”ืžื•ืฆื™ื ืชื—ืœื” ื•ืื ืื›ืœ ืฉื™ืขื•ืจ ืฉืื—ืจื™ื ืื™ืŸ ืงื•ื‘ืขื™ื ืขืœื™ื• ืืข"ืค ืฉื”ื•ื ืงื•ื‘ืข ืขืœื™ื• ืื™ื ื• ืžื‘ืจืš ืืœื ื‘ื•ืจื ืžื™ื ื™ ืžื–ื•ื ื•ืช ื•ื‘ืจื›ื” ืื—ืช ืžืขื™ืŸ ืฉืœืฉื” ื“ื‘ื˜ืœื” ื“ืขืชื• ืืฆืœ ื›ืœ ืื“ื:

The Shulchan Aruch paskens that one has to bentch after eating Pas haBa'ah beKisnin, provided that others would fix a seudah on the same exact quantity (ื‘ื˜ืœื” ื“ืขืชื• - both ืœื—ื•ืžืจื and ืœืงื•ืœื).

Mishnah Berurah 168:24ืžืฉื ื” ื‘ืจื•ืจื” ืงืกืดื—:ื›ืดื“
(ื›ื“) ืฉืื—ืจื™ื ืจื’ื™ืœื™ื ืœืงื‘ื•ืข - ื›ืชื‘ื• ื”ืื—ืจื•ื ื™ื ื“ืื ืื›ืœื• ืœื‘ื“ื• ืฆืจื™ืš ืฉื™ืื›ืœ ืฉื™ืขื•ืจ ืฉืื—ืจื™ื ืจื’ื™ืœื™ื ืœืฉื‘ื•ืข ืžืžื ื• ืœื‘ื“ื• ื•ืื ืื›ืœื• ืขื ื‘ืฉืจ ืื• ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืื—ืจื™ื ืฉืžืœืคืชื™ื ื‘ื• ื”ืคืช ืกื’ื™ ื›ืฉืื•ื›ืœ ืฉื™ืขื•ืจ ืฉืื—ืจื™ื ืจื’ื™ืœื™ืŸ ืœืฉื‘ื•ืข ืžืžื ื• ื›ืฉืื•ื›ืœื™ืŸ ื’"ื› ืขื ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืื—ืจื™ื ืืš ืื ืื›ืœื• ืœื‘ื“ื• ื•ืฉื‘ืข ืžืžื ื• ืืฃ ืฉืื—ืจื™ื ืœื ื”ื™ื• ืฉื‘ืขื™ืŸ ืžืžื ื• ืœื‘ื“ื• ืื‘ืœ ื›ื™ื•ืŸ ืฉืื ืื›ืœื• ืื•ืชื• ืขื ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืื—ืจื™ื ื”ื™ื• ืฉื‘ืขื™ืŸ ืžืžื ื• ื’"ื› ืœื ืืžืจื™ื ืŸ ื‘ื˜ืœื” ื“ืขืชื• ื•ืฆืจื™ืš ืœื‘ืจืš ืขืœื™ื• ื”ืžื•ืฆื™ื ื•ื‘ื”ืž"ื–. ื•ื”ื ื” ืœืขื ื™ืŸ ืขื™ืจื•ื‘ื™ ืชื—ื•ืžื™ืŸ ื‘ืกื™ืžืŸ ืฉืก"ื” ืื™ืชื ื“ืฉื™ืขื•ืจ ืกืขื•ื“ื” ื”ื•ื ื’' ืื• ื“' ื‘ื™ืฆื™ื ื•ื›ืชื‘ื• ื›ืžื” ืื—ืจื•ื ื™ื ื“ื”"ื” ื›ืืŸ ื—ืฉื™ื‘ ื‘ื–ื” ืฉื™ืขื•ืจ ืงื‘ื™ืขืช ืกืขื•ื“ื” ืื‘ืœ ื›ืžื” ืื—ืจื•ื ื™ื ื•ื”ื’ืจ"ื ืžื›ืœืœื ื—ื•ืœืงื™ื ื•ืก"ืœ ื“ืื™ืŸ ืœื‘ืจืš ื”ืžื•ืฆื™ื ื•ื‘ื”ืž"ื– ืืœื ื›ืฉื™ืขื•ืจ ืกืขื•ื“ื” ืงื‘ื•ืข ืฉื”ื•ื ืฉืœ ืขืจื‘ ื•ื‘ืงืจ ื•ื›ืžืฉ"ื› ื‘ื‘"ื™ ื‘ืฉื ืฉื™ื‘ื•ืœื™ ืœืงื˜ ื•ื›ืŸ ืžืฆืืชื™ ื‘ืืฉื›ื•ืœ ื“ืžื•ื›ื— ืฉื”ื•ื ืกื•ื‘ืจ ื›ืŸ ื•ื›ืŸ ื ื•ื˜ื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ืœืฉื•ืŸ ื”ืฉื•"ืข. ื•ืž"ืž ืœื›ืชื—ืœื” ื˜ื•ื‘ ืœื—ื•ืฉ ืœื“ืขืช ื”ืžื—ืžื™ืจื™ื ืฉืœื ืœืื›ื•ืœ ื“' ื‘ื™ืฆื™ื ื•ื›"ืฉ ืื ื”ื•ื ื“ื‘ืจ ืฉื™ืฉ ืœื”ืกืชืคืง ื‘ื• ืžื“ื™ื ื ืื ื”ื•ื ืคืช ื”ื‘ืื” ื‘ื›ื™ืกื ื™ืŸ ืืฃ ื“ืžื‘ื•ืืจ ื‘ืก"ื– ื“ื”ื•ืœื›ื™ืŸ ื‘ื–ื” ืœื”ืงืœ ืขื›"ืค ื‘ื•ื“ืื™ ื™ืฉ ืœื—ื•ืฉ ืœื“ืขืช ื”ืžื—ืžื™ืจื™ื ื”ื "ืœ:

The Mishnah Berurah paskens the chidush of the Magen Avraham to bentch after eating some mezonos and something else when the two combine together to a normal kvius seuda.

Mishnah Shabbat 7:4ืžืฉื ื” ืฉื‘ืช ื–ืณ:ื“ืณ
ื”ึทืžึผื•ึนืฆึดื™ื ืชึถื‘ึถืŸ, ื›ึผึดืžึฐืœึนื ืคึดื™ ืคึธืจึธื”. ืขึธืฆึธื”, ื›ึผึดืžึฐืœึนื ืคึดื™ ื’ึธืžึธืœ. ืขึธืžึดื™ืจ, ื›ึผึดืžึฐืœึนื ืคึดื™ ื˜ึธืœึถื”. ืขึฒืฉื‚ึธื‘ึดื™ื, ื›ึผึดืžึฐืœึนื ืคึดื™ ื’ึฐื“ึดื™. ืขึฒืœึตื™ ืฉืื•ึผื ื•ึทืขึฒืœึตื™ ื‘ึฐืฆึธืœึดื™ื, ืœึทื—ึดื™ื, ื›ึผึดื’ึฐืจื•ึนื’ึถืจึถืช, ื™ึฐื‘ึตืฉืึดื™ื, ื›ึผึดืžึฐืœึนื ืคึดื™ ื’ึฐื“ึดื™. ื•ึฐืึตื™ืŸ ืžึดืฆึฐื˜ึธืจึฐืคึดื™ืŸ ื–ึถื” ืขึดื ื–ึถื”, ืžึดืคึผึฐื ึตื™ ืฉืึถืœึผึนื ืฉืึธื•ื•ึผ ื‘ึฐืฉืึดืขื•ึผืจึตื™ื”ึถืŸ. ื”ึทืžึผื•ึนืฆึดื™ื ืึณื›ึธืœึดื™ื ื›ึผึดื’ึฐืจื•ึนื’ึถืจึถืช, ื—ึทื™ึผึธื‘, ื•ึผืžึดืฆึฐื˜ึธืจึฐืคึดื™ืŸ ื–ึถื” ืขึดื ื–ึถื”, ืžึดืคึผึฐื ึตื™ ืฉืึถืฉึผืึธื•ื•ึผ ื‘ึฐืฉืึดืขื•ึผืจึตื™ื”ึถืŸ, ื—ื•ึผืฅ ืžึดืงึผึฐืœึดืคึผึตื™ื”ึถืŸ ื•ึฐื’ึทืจึฐืขึดื™ื ึตื™ื”ึถืŸ ื•ึฐืขึปืงึฐืฆึตื™ื”ึถืŸ ื•ึฐืกึปื‘ึผึธืŸ ื•ึผืžึปืจึฐืกึธื ึธืŸ. ืจึทื‘ึผึดื™ ื™ึฐื”ื•ึผื“ึธื” ืื•ึนืžึตืจ, ื—ื•ึผืฅ ืžึดืงึผึฐืœึดืคึผึตื™ ืขึฒื“ึธืฉืึดื™ื ืฉืึถืžึผึดืชึฐื‘ึผึทืฉึผืึฐืœื•ึนืช ืขึดืžึผึธื”ึถืŸ:

The Mishna declares that things with different shiurim cannot combine. From here (and the occurrence of the same principle in Kodshim) the Chidah is questioning this ruling (in Birkei Yosef).

Arukh HaShulchan, Orach Chaim 168:17ืขืจื•ืš ื”ืฉื•ืœื—ืŸ, ืื•ืจื— ื—ื™ื™ื ืงืกืดื—:ื™ืดื–
ื™ืฉ ืื•ืžืจื™ื ื“ืื ืื•ื›ืœ ื–ื” ืขื ื‘ืฉืจ ืื• ืฉืืจื™ ืชื‘ืฉื™ืœื™ืŸ ื•ื‘ื–ื” ื”ืื•ืคืŸ ื™ืฉ ื‘ื”ื ืกืขื•ื“ืช ืงื‘ืข, ืืฃ ืขืœ ืคื™ ืฉื›ืฉืื•ื›ืœื ืœื‘ื“ื ืื™ืŸ ื‘ื”ื ืงื‘ื™ืขื•ืช ืกืขื•ื“ื” - ืžืงืจื™ ืงื‘ื™ืขื•ืช ื•ืฆืจื™ืš ืœื™ื˜ื•ืœ ื™ื“ื™ื• ื•ืœื‘ืจืš 'ื”ืžื•ืฆื™ื' ื•ื‘ืจื›ืช ื”ืžื–ื•ืŸ (ืžื’ืŸ ืื‘ืจื”ื ืกืงื™"ื’ ื•ืืœื™ื” ืจื‘ื” ืกืงื™"ื–). ื•ืื ื”ื•ื ืฉื‘ืข ืžืžื ื• ื’ื ื‘ืœื ืœืคืชืŸ ื•ืื—ืจื™ื ืื™ื ื ืฉื‘[ื™]ืขื™ื ื‘ืฉื™ืขื•ืจ ื›ื–ื” ืืœื ื‘ืœืคืชืŸ - ื’ื ื›ืŸ ื”ื“ื™ืŸ ื›ืŸ (ืฉื). ื•ื™ืฉ ืฉืžื•ืกื™ืฃ ืœื•ืžืจ ื“ืืคื™ืœื• ืื ืื•ื›ืœื• ื‘ืœืคืชืŸ ื•ื”ื•ื ืฉื‘ืข ื•ื’ื ืื—ืจื™ื ืฉื‘ืขื™ื ื‘ื›ื”ืื™ ื’ื•ื•ื ื, ืžื›ืœ ืžืงื•ื ืฆืจื™ืš ืฉื™ืขื•ืจ ื“' ื‘ื™ืฆื™ื (ื”ื’ืจ"ื– ืกืขื™ืฃ ื—'). ื•ืื ื™ ืชืžื” ืขืœ ื›ืœ ื”ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ื”ืืœื”, ืฉื”ืจื™ ืืคื™ืœื• ื‘ืขื™ืจื•ื‘ ืฉื”ื•ืœื›ื™ืŸ ื”ืจื‘ื” ืœื”ืงืœ ืœืขื ื™ื™ืŸ ืฉืชื™ ืกืขื•ื“ื•ืช ืœืขื™ืจื•ื‘ื™ ืชื—ื•ืžื™ืŸ, ื•ืจื‘ื™ ืžืื™ืจ ื•ืจื‘ื™ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื” ืกื•ื‘ืจื™ื ื›ืŸ ื‘ืžืฉื ื” ื“ืขื™ืจื•ื‘ื™ืŸ (ืค"ื’:) ื“ืžืฉืขืจื™ื ื‘ืคืช ืžื•ืขื˜ ื”ื ืื›ืœ ื‘ืœืคืชืŸ, ื•ืขื ื›ืœ ื–ื” ืœื ืงื™ื™ืžื ืœืŸ ื›ืŸ ืืœื ื›ืชื ืื™ ื“ืคืœื™ื’ื™ ืขืœื™ื™ื”ื•, ื•ืกื‘ื™ืจื ืœื™ื” ื“ืžืฉืขืจื™ืŸ ื‘ืคืช ื‘ืœื‘ื“, ื›ืœ ืฉื›ืŸ ื“ืœื”ื—ืžื™ืจ ืœืขื ื™ื™ืŸ ื–ื” ืœื ืืžืจื™ื ืŸ ื›ืŸ, ื“ืื ื›ืŸ ื”ื ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืฉืื™ืŸ ืœื”ื ืฉื™ืขื•ืจ, ื•ื›ืžื” ืขืฉื™ืจื™ื ืฉืžืื›ืœื ื”ืจื‘ื” ืชื‘ืฉื™ืœื™ืŸ ื˜ื•ื‘ื™ื ื•ืื•ื›ืœื™ื ืคืช ื›ืœ ืฉื”ื•ื, ื•ืžืื™ ืฉื™ืขื•ืจื ื“ื“' ื‘ื™ืฆื™ื ืœื–ื”. ื•ืื™ ืžืฉื•ื ืฉื”ื•ื ืฉื‘ืข, ื”ืจื™ ื–ื” ื›ืžื™ ืฉืฉื‘ืข ื‘ืคื™ืจื•ืช, ื•ืื™ื–ื” ืขื ื™ื™ืŸ ื”ื•ื ืœ'ื”ืžื•ืฆื™ื' ื•ื‘ืจื›ืช ื”ืžื–ื•ืŸ. ื•ืœื›ืŸ ื ืจืื” ืœืขื ื™ื•ืช ื“ืขืชื™ ื“ืฆืจื™ื›ื™ื ืœืฉืขืจ ื‘ื”ืคืช ื‘ืœื‘ื“, ื•ื‘ืจืืฉื•ื ื™ื ืœื ื ืžืฆื ื“ื‘ืจ ื–ื”. (ื•ื”ืžื’ืŸ ืื‘ืจื”ื ื”ื‘ื™ื ืจืื™ื” ืžืชื•ืกืคื•ืช ื•ืกืž"ืง ืฉื›ืชื‘ื• ืขืœ ืœื—ืžื ื™ื•ืช ื“ืงื‘ืขื• ืขืœื™ื™ื”ื• ื›ืžื• ื‘ืคื•ืจื™ื, ื•ื“ื™ื™ืง ืžื–ื” ื“ืคื•ืจื™ื ืื™ืŸ ืื•ื›ืœื™ืŸ ืคืช ื‘ืœื‘ื“, ืชืžื™ื”ื ื™ ื“ืื˜ื• ืœืขื ื™ื™ืŸ ื–ื” ืงืืžืจื™, ื”ื ืืžืจื• ืจืง ื“ื‘ืคื•ืจื™ื ื”ื“ืจืš ืœืงื‘ื•ืข ืกืขื•ื“ื” ืขืœ ืœื—ืžื ื™ื•ืช ืžืคื ื™ ืฉื‘ื›ืœ ื”ืฉื ื” ืื™ืŸ ืžื“ืจืš ืœืงื‘ื•ืข ืขืœื™ื”ื, ื•ืžื” ืขื ื™ื™ืŸ ื–ื” ืœื–ื”. ื•ื’ื ืž"ืฉ ื”ื’ืจ"ื– ื“ืขื“ ืฉืฉ ื‘ื™ืฆื™ื ืื ืœื ืฉื‘ืข ื™ื‘ืจืš 'ื‘ื•ืจื ืžื™ื ื™ ืžื–ื•ื ื•ืช', ื•ืื ื”ื•ื ืฉื‘ืข ื™ื˜ื•ืœ ื™ื“ื™ื• ื•ื™ื‘ืจืš 'ื”ืžื•ืฆื™ื' ื•ื‘ืจื›ืช ื”ืžื–ื•ืŸ, ื•ืžืฉืฉ ื•ืœืžืขืœื” ืขื“ ื—ืฆื™ ืขืฉืจื•ืŸ ืื ืื™ื ื• ืฉื‘ืข ื™ื‘ืจืš ืขืœ ืœื—ื ืื—ืจ ืข"ืฉ, ื›ืœ ื”ืฉื™ืขื•ืจื™ื ื”ืœืœื• ืœื ื™ื“ืขืชื™, ื”ืœื ื”ื•ืœื›ื™ืŸ ืื—ืจ ืจื•ื‘ ื”ืขื•ืœื, ื•ื›ื™ื•ืŸ ืฉื›ืชื‘ ื‘ืขืฆืžื• ื“ื—ืฆื™ ืขืฉืจื•ืŸ ื”ื•ื ืฉื™ืขื•ืจ ืกืขื•ื“ื” ืœื›ืœ ืื“ื, ืžื” ืœื ื• ืขื•ื“. ื•ื›ืžื“ื•ืžื ื™ ืฉื™ืฉ ืฉื ืขื™ืจื‘ื•ื‘ื™ ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ื‘ื“ืคื•ืกื™ื ื”ื—ื“ืฉื™ื ืฉื”ืขืชื™ืงื• ืžืกื™ื“ื•ืจื•, ื•ืื™ืŸ ื”ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืžื›ื•ื•ื ื™ื ืžืž"ืฉ ื‘ืกื™ื“ื•ืจื• ืœืž"ืฉ ื‘ืฉืœื—ืŸ ืขืจื•ืš ื•ื“ื•"ืง).

The Aruch haShulchan is questioning this ruling about counting non-mezonos items towards the amount of kvius seudah and seemingly paskens against โ€“ with proofs.

Arukh HaShulchan, Orach Chaim 168:18ืขืจื•ืš ื”ืฉื•ืœื—ืŸ, ืื•ืจื— ื—ื™ื™ื ืงืกืดื—:ื™ืดื—
ื•ื“ืข ืฉื›ืžื” ื’ื“ื•ืœื™ื ืฆืขืงื• ื›ื›ืจื•ื›ื™ื ืขืœ ืžื” ืฉื ืชืคืฉื˜ ื‘ื“ื•ืจื™ื ื• ื‘ื›ืœ ื”ืžื“ื™ื ื” ืฉื‘ืขืช ืื™ื–ื” ืฉืžื—ื” ืขื•ืจื›ื™ื ืฉืœื—ืŸ ืขื ื›ืžื” ืžื™ื ื™ ื“ื’ื™ื ื•ื›ืžื” ืžื™ื ื™ ื‘ืฉืจ, ื•ืื•ื›ืœื™ื ืขื ืคืช ื”ื‘ืื” ื‘ื›ื™ืกื ื™ืŸ ื•ืื•ื›ืœื™ื ื‘ืœื ื ื˜ื™ืœืช ื™ื“ื™ื ื•ื‘ืœื 'ื”ืžื•ืฆื™ื' ื•ื‘ืจื›ืช ื”ืžื–ื•ืŸ, ืืœื ื‘ื‘ืจื›ืช 'ืžื–ื•ื ื•ืช' ื•ืœื‘ืกื•ืฃ 'ืขืœ ื”ืžื—ื™ื”', ื•ืื•ื›ืœื™ื ื”ืจื‘ื” ืžืื•ื“ ืžื”ื’ืœื•ืกืงืื•ืช ื•ืžื—ืœื” ื”ืืคื•ื™ ืขืœ ืฉืžืŸ ืฉืงื•ืจื™ืŸ ื‘ื•ื™ืžื™"ืœ ื—ืœื”. ื•ืื™ืŸ ืฉื•ื ืกืคืง ื‘ื–ื” ื“ืฆืจื™ื›ื™ืŸ ืœื™ื˜ื•ืœ ื™ื“ื™ื”ื ื•'ื”ืžื•ืฆื™ื' ื•ื‘ืจื›ืช ื”ืžื–ื•ืŸ, ื•ืืคื™ืœื• ืื ื™ื–ื”ืจื• ืฉืœื ืœืื›ื•ืœ ื”ืจื‘ื” ืžื”ืคืช, ืžื›ืœ ืžืงื•ื ื”ื ืœื“ืขืช ื”ื’ื“ื•ืœื™ื ืฉื‘ืกืขื™ืฃ ื”ืงื•ื“ื ืื ืฉื‘ืขื• ืžื”ืœืคืชืŸ ื—ื™ื™ื‘ื™ื ืœื™ื˜ื•ืœ ื™ื“ื™ื”ื ื•ื›ื•' ืืฃ ื›ืฉืื•ื›ืœื™ื ืžืขื˜ ืคืช, ื•ื‘ื•ื•ื“ืื™ ื›ื“' ื‘ื™ืฆื™ื ืื•ื›ืœื™ื. ื•ืจืง ืžืขื˜ ืžื”ื™ืจื™ืื™ื ื ื–ื”ืจื™ื ื‘ื™ืฉื‘ื ืขืœ ืฉืœื—ืŸ ื›ื–ื” ืœื‘ืœื™ ืœืื›ื•ืœ ื”ืจื‘ื”, ืื• ืฉื ื•ื˜ืœื™ื ื™ื“ื™ื”ื ื•ืžื‘ืจื›ื™ื 'ื”ืžื•ืฆื™ื' ืขืœ ืคืช ืกืชื, ืื‘ืœ ืจื•ื‘ ื”ืžื•ืŸ ื™ืฉืจืืœ ืื™ืŸ ืฉื•ืžืจื™ื ืขืฆืžื ืžื–ื”. ืขืœ ื›ืŸ ื‘ื•ื•ื“ืื™ ื—ืœื™ืœื” ืœืขืฉื•ืช ื›ืŸ, ืืš ืื™ืŸ ื‘ื™ื“ื™ื ื• ืœืžื—ื•ืช ื›ื™ื“ื•ืข. (ื•ื›ื“ื™ ืœืœืžื“ ืงืฆืช ื–ื›ื•ืช ื ืจืื” ืœืขื ื™ื•ืช ื“ืขืชื™ ืงื•ืœื ืžืœืฉื•ืŸ ื”ืจื™"ืฃ ื‘ืขื ื™ื™ืŸ ื–ื”, ืฉื›ืชื‘ ื‘ื–ื” ื”ืœืฉื•ืŸ: "ืžืกืงื ื: ื”ื™ื›ื ื“ืื›ืœ ืœื” ื‘ืชื•ืจืช ื›ื™ืกื ื™ืŸ ืžื‘ืจืš 'ื‘ื•ืจื ืžื™ื ื™ ืžื–ื•ื ื•ืช' ื•ื›ื•', ื•ื”ื™ื›ื ื“ืื›ืœ ืœื” ื‘ืชื•ืจืช ืงื‘ื™ืขื•ืชื - ืžื‘ืจืš ืขืœื™ื” 'ื”ืžื•ืฆื™ื' ื•ื’' ื‘ืจื›ื•ืช" ืขื›"ืœ. ื•ืžืฉืžืข ืžืœืฉื•ื ื• ื“ืื™ื ื• ืชืœื•ื™ ื‘ืฉื™ืขื•ืจ ืงื‘ื™ืขืช ื”ืกืขื•ื“ื” ืืœื ื‘ืื•ืคืŸ ื”ืื›ื™ืœื”, ื‘ื™ืŸ ื”ื”ื›ื ื” ืœืื›ื™ืœืช ืขืจืื™ ื•ื‘ื™ืŸ ื”ื”ื›ื ื” ืœืื›ื™ืœืช ืงื‘ืข. ื•ื–ื” ื™ื“ื•ืข ืฉื‘ืื›ื™ืœืช ืกืขื•ื“ื” ื’ืžื•ืจื” ืคื•ืฉื˜ื™ืŸ ื”ื‘ื’ื“ื™ื ื”ืขืœื™ื•ื ื™ื ื•ื™ื•ืฉื‘ื™ื ืกื‘ื™ื‘ ื”ืฉืœื—ืŸ, ืื‘ืœ ื‘ืื›ื™ืœื•ืช ืืœื• ื—ื•ื˜ืคื™ืŸ ื•ืื•ื›ืœื™ืŸ ื›ืžื” ืฉื”ืŸ ื‘ืœื™ ื”ื›ื ื”, ื•ื™ืฉ ืื•ื›ืœื™ืŸ ืžืขื•ืžื“ ื•ืžื”ืœืš ื›ื™ื“ื•ืข ื•ืกื•ื‘ืจื™ื ื“ื–ื” ืœื ืžืงืจื™ ืงื‘ื™ืขืช ืกืขื•ื“ื”. ื•ื–ื” ืฉืืžืจื• ื‘ื’ืžืจื: "ื›ืœ ืฉืื—ืจื™ื ืงื•ื‘ืขื™ืŸ ื•ื›ื•'โ€ ืฆืจื™ืš ืœื“ื—ื•ืง ืœืคื™ืจื•ืฉ ื–ื” ื’ื ื›ืŸ ื‘ืื•ืคืŸ ืฉื›ืชื‘ื ื•, ื•ื›ืœ ื™ืจื ืืœืงื™ื ื™ืจื—ืง ืืช ืขืฆืžื• ืžื–ื”, ื•ื”ื•ื ืจื—ื•ื ื™ื›ืคืจ ืขื•ืŸ).

The Aruch haShulchan refines his ruling and suggests strongly to take into consideration those opinions which want to count non-mezonos items as well, but probably only in an apparent seudah / ื”ืขืจืžื”-setting (otherwise he would contradict his earlier ruling).

Magen Avraham 168:13ืžื’ืŸ ืื‘ืจื”ื ืงืกืดื—:ื™ืดื’
ืœืงื‘ื•ืข ืขืœื™ื•. ื "ืœ ื“ืื ื”ื•ื ืงื‘ืข ืกืขื•ื“ืชื• ืขืœื™ื• ืืฃ ืขืœ ืคื™ ืฉืื›ืœ ืขืžื• ื‘ืฉืจ ื•ื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืื—ืจื™ื ื•ืืœื• ืื›ืœื• ืœื‘ื“ื• ืœื ื”ื™ื” ืฉื‘ืข ืžืžื ื• ืืค"ื” ืžื‘ืจืš ื”ืžื•ืฆื™ื ื•ื’' ื‘ืจื›ื•ืช ื•ื›"ืž ื”ืœ' ื‘ื’ืž' ื›ืœ ืฉืื—ืจื™ื ืงื•ื‘ืขื™ืŸ ืขืœื™ื• ื•ื›"ืž ืงืฆืช ื‘ืชื•' ืฉื›ืชื‘ื• ื’ื‘ื™ ืœื—ืžื ื™ื•ืช ืื ืงื‘ืข ืขืœื™ื™ื”ื• ื›ืžื• ื‘ืคื•ืจื™ื ืขื›"ืœ, ื•ื‘ืกืž"ืง ื›ืชื•ื‘ ื‘ืœื™ืœ ืคื•ืจื™ื ื•ื‘ืœื™ืœ ื‘ืจื™ืช ืžื™ืœื”, ื•ืžืกืชืžื ื‘ืคื•ืจื™ื ืื™ืŸ ืงื•ื‘ืขื™ืŸ ืœื‘ื“ื ื•ืื ืื›ืœื• ืœื‘ื“ื• ื‘ืขื™ื ืŸ ืฉื™ืื›ืœื• ื›ืœ ื›ืš ืฉืื—ืจื™ื ืจื’ื™ืœื™ื ืœืฉื‘ื•ืข ืžืžื ื• ืœื‘ื“ื• ื“ืื ื ืฉืขืจ ืฉื™ืขื•ืจ ืฉืื•ื›ืœื™ื ืขื ื“"ื ื ืชืช ื“ื‘ืจื™ืš ืœืฉื™ืขื•ืจื™ืŸ ื•ืขืค"ื— ื“ืขืจื•ื‘ื™ืŸ ื“ืืคืฉืจ ืœืฉืขืจ ื•ืฆ"ืข, ื•ืื ื”ื•ื ืฉื‘ืข ืžืžื ื• ื•ื’ื ืื—ืจื™ื ืจื’ื™ืœื™ืŸ ืœืฉื‘ื•ืข ืžืžื ื• ื›ืฉืžืœืคืชื™ืŸ ืขืžื• ื“ื‘ืจ ืืคื™ืœื• ืื›ืœื• ืœื‘ื“ื• ืžื‘ืจืš ื”ืžื•ืฆื™ื ื›ื™ื•ืŸ ืฉืฉื‘ืข ืžืžื ื• ื›ื "ืœ:

The Magen Avraham brings compelling proofs from the original Gemara's lashon (see ืžื—ืฆื™ืช ื”ืฉืงืœ: https://beta.hebrewbooks.org/tursa.aspx?a=oc_x977) and Tosfos / Smak (based on the fact that these are seudos of mitzvah, and as such, it would be unusual to have them on mezonos only).

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His proof offers a novel reading and understanding in the following Gemara and the whole concept of ืงื‘ื™ืขื•ืช ืกืขื•ื“ื”. It is surprisingly coincides with the above distinction of the Aruch haShulchan.

Berakhot 42a:2ื‘ืจื›ื•ืช ืžืดื‘ ื:ื‘ืณ
ืจึทื‘ ื”ื•ึผื ึธื ืึฒื›ึทืœ ืชึผึฐืœึตื™ืกึทืจ ืจึดื™ืคึฐืชึตื™ ื‘ึผึฐื ึตื™ ืชึผึฐืœึธืชึธื ืชึผึฐืœึธืชึธื ื‘ึผึฐืงึทื‘ึผึธื ื•ึฐืœึธื ื‘ึผึธืจึตื™ืšึฐ. ืึฒืžึทืจ ืœึตื™ื”ึผ ืจึทื‘ ื ึทื—ึฐืžึธืŸ: ืขึธื“ึตื™ ื›ึผึทืคึฐื ึธื! ืึถืœึผึธื ื›ึผึนืœ ืฉืึถืึฒื—ึตืจึดื™ื ืงื•ึนื‘ึฐืขึดื™ื ืขึธืœึธื™ื• ืกึฐืขื•ึผื“ึธื”, ืฆึธืจึดื™ืšึฐ ืœึฐื‘ึธืจึตืšึฐ.

At first sight, the Gemara demonstrates the greatness of the amount consumed by Rav Huna, but in the Magen Avraham's novel reading, his feast had a "abstinent" aspect: that he was avoiding anything else besides mezonos (cf. ืคืช ื‘ืžืœื— ืชื•ื›ืœ). Others would probably extend this "meager" seudah with other items as well (besides decreasing its mezonos-quantity).

Berakhot 42a:3ื‘ืจื›ื•ืช ืžืดื‘ ื:ื’ืณ
ืจึทื‘ ื™ึฐื”ื•ึผื“ึธื” ื”ึฒื•ึธื” ืขึธืกึตื™ืง ืœึตื™ื”ึผ ืœึดื‘ึฐืจึตื™ื”ึผ ื‘ึผึตื™ ืจึทื‘ ื™ึฐื”ื•ึผื“ึธื” ื‘ึผึทืจ ื—ึฒื‘ึดื™ื‘ึธื. ืึทื™ึฐื™ืชื•ึน ืœึฐืงึทืžึผึทื™ึฐื™ื”ื•ึผ ืคึผึทืช ื”ึทื‘ึผึธืึธื” ื‘ึผึฐื›ึดืกึธื ึดื™ืŸ. ื›ึผึดื™ ืึฒืชึธื, ืฉืึทืžึฐืขึดื™ื ึฐื”ื•ึผ ื“ึผึฐืงึธื ืžึฐื‘ึธืจึฐื›ึดื™ ืดื”ึทืžึผื•ึนืฆึดื™ืืด. ืึธืžึทืจ ืœึฐื”ื•ึผ: ืžึทืื™ ืดืฆึดื™ืฆึดื™ืด ื“ึผึฐืงึธื ืฉืึธืžึทืขึฐื ึธื? ื“ึผึดื™ืœึฐืžึธื ืดื”ึทืžึผื•ึนืฆึดื™ื ืœึถื—ึถื ืžึดืŸ ื”ึธืึธืจึถืฅืด ืงึธื ืžึฐื‘ึธืจึฐื›ึดื™ืชื•ึผ? ืึธืžึฐืจึดื™ ืœึตื™ื”ึผ: ืึดื™ืŸ. ื“ึผึฐืชึทื ึฐื™ึธื, ืจึทื‘ึผึดื™ ืžื•ึผื ึธื ืึธืžึทืจ ืžึดืฉึผืื•ึผื ืจึทื‘ึผึดื™ ื™ึฐื”ื•ึผื“ึธื”: ืคึผึทืช ื”ึทื‘ึผึธืึธื” ื‘ึผึฐื›ึดืกึธื ึดื™ืŸ ืžึฐื‘ึธืจึฐื›ึดื™ืŸ ืขึธืœึถื™ื”ึธ ืดื”ึทืžึผื•ึนืฆึดื™ืืด, ื•ึฐืึธืžึทืจ ืฉืึฐืžื•ึผืึตืœ: ื”ึฒืœึธื›ึธื” ื›ึผึฐืจึทื‘ึผึดื™ ืžื•ึผื ึธื.
Berakhot 42a:4ื‘ืจื›ื•ืช ืžืดื‘ ื:ื“ืณ
ืึธืžึทืจ ืœึฐื”ื•ึผ: ืึตื™ืŸ ื”ึฒืœึธื›ึธื” ื›ึผึฐืจึทื‘ึผึดื™ ืžื•ึผื ึธื ืึดืชึผึฐืžึทืจ. ืึธืžึฐืจึดื™ ืœึตื™ื”ึผ: ื•ึฐื”ึธื ืžึธืจ ื”ื•ึผื ื“ึผึฐืึธืžึทืจ ืžึดืฉึผืึฐืžึตื™ื”ึผ ื“ึผึดืฉืึฐืžื•ึผืึตืœ ืœึทื—ึฐืžึธื ึดื™ึผื•ึนืช ืžึฐืขึธืจึฐื‘ึดื™ืŸ ื‘ึผึธื”ึถืŸ, ื•ึผืžึฐื‘ึธืจึฐื›ึดื™ืŸ ืขึฒืœึตื™ื”ึถืŸ ืดื”ึทืžึผื•ึนืฆึดื™ืืด? ืฉืึธืื ึตื™ ื”ึธืชึธื ื“ึผึฐืงึธื‘ึทืข ืกึฐืขื•ึนื“ึฐืชึผึตื™ื”ึผ ืขึฒืœึทื™ึฐื™ื”ื•ึผ, ืึฒื‘ึธืœ ื”ึตื™ื›ึธื ื“ึผึฐืœึธื ืงึธื‘ึทืข ืกึฐืขื•ึนื“ึฐืชึผึตื™ื”ึผ ืขึฒืœึทื™ึฐื™ื”ื•ึผ โ€” ืœึธื.

Here the Gemara seemingly brings a contradictory ruling in which the amount of ืงื‘ื™ืขื•ืช ืกืขื•ื“ื” is not determined by the people in general, rather based on the individual (further emphasized by the ืชื ืื™ ื›ืคื•ืœ-like formulation).

Tosafot on Berakhot 42a:4:1ืชื•ืกืคื•ืช ืขืœ ื‘ืจื›ื•ืช ืžืดื‘ ื:ื“ืณ:ืืณ
ืœื—ืžื ื™ื•ืช - ืคืจืฉ"ื™ ืื•ื‘ืœื™ื"ืฉ ื•ืœื ื ื”ื™ืจื ื“ื"ื› ืืคื™ืœื• ืœื ืงื‘ืข ื ืžื™ ืœื‘ืจื™ืš ื”ืžื•ืฆื™ื ืฉื”ืจื™ ื”ื•ื ืœื—ื ื’ืžื•ืจ ืฉื”ืจื™ ืกื•ืคื• ืขื™ืกื” ื•ื ืจืื” ืœืคืจืฉ ื“ื”ื™ื™ื ื• ื ื™ืœื™"ืฉ ืžื™ื”ื• ื›ื™ ืงื‘ืข ืกืขื•ื“ืชื™ื” ืขืœื™ื” ืžื‘ืจืš ืขืœื™ื• ื”ืžื•ืฆื™ื ื›ืžื• ื‘ืคื•ืจื™ื ืžื™ื”ื• ืจื‘ื™ื ื• ืฉืžืฉื•ืŸ ืคื™ืจืฉ ื“ืื™ืŸ ืœื‘ืจืš ืขืœื™ื• ื”ืžื•ืฆื™ื ื“ื”ื•ื™ ื›ืžื• ื“ื™ื™ืกื:

In the light of all the above, the Aruch haShulchan's critique about the Magen Avraham's proof from here seems somewhat strange, since the Mg"A'sย explanation about the mention of Purim is much stronger connected to the topic than the assumption of the Ah"S about people eating ืœื—ืžื ื™ื•ืช on Purim only, in the time of the Gemara. (Also consider Ah"S 168:28 where he is making it clear that we have no information about there eating customs which deepens this questions.)